If minimum wage workers want to afford a modest 2-bedroom apartment they'd have to work 122 hours a week. Every week. All year.



I decided to look up temp jobs yesterday and found one for Temp Park work. The job duties included back-breaking work in the Texas heat such as mowing, lawn maintenance and care, building maintenance and care, setting up for and taking down local events, painting, etc. (the list goes on.) When I read the pay $7.40 an hour, I thought, who could do this job?

This is the wage that would be suitable for a teenager, but teens don’t know how to do everything required. The only person who could apply for this would have to be someone in their 30s-40s on up. Impossible. No one can live on these few measly bucks per hour putting in so much work in the heat mind you.

When the supply of labor tightens, wages increase. Stop illegal immigration and limit visas and wages will increase. When North Dakota’s oil/gas boom started, the local fast food joints paid $15/hr. They had to do that to attract workers because the demand for their products was higher than the supply of labor. When the recession hit, the entry level salary for lawyers dropped significantly. This happened because there were more lawyers looking for work than there were jobs. It’s supply and demand. We all learned about this in high school economics. Don’t let the media and politicians distort the way you think.

For all of you guys ranting on, on both sides of the argument ! READ UP: Many of you do not seem to be aware, Yes, there is a national minimum wage, but each state and city can set it and override the national rate. Here in Honolulu, The minimum wage is now $10,10 an hour. As an example, prior to this year, many Bank tellers were paid just over minimum wage.. Working a full time job at the bank they qualified for both food stamps and section 8 housing. Because of President Trumps tax cuts, many of the local banks this year finally raised their starting pay rate to $15 an hour. Here in Hawaii, 287,000 PEOPLE got their food from a food bank last year. (people, not meal counts) That is 20% of the states population. Why ? A report came out a few weeks ago that said a single person making less than $48,000 a year is considered "low income". a 2 bedroom apartment here in Honolulu is about $2,200 a month. A cheap hole in the wall box of an apartment is about $1,000 a month

Trying to get people (that have a living wage or above) in the US to care about ensuring everyone can at minimum earn a living wage is apparently not possible. They will say min wage is for kids, part-timers, students, etc. not realizing that most people on min wage don't fall into those categories - many are single moms and over 80% earning min wage are over age 20. I think it is hard for people to walk in someone else's shoes. There are companies that have figured out how to pay people living wage and be very profitable (Costco for one). Since almost all $ goes to the top 1%, maybe top 10%, it would seem that by paying people a livable wage (probably closer to $20 or more/hour), GDP would soar - as those folks would spend, unlike rich that tend to let the funds accumulate (as they have already bought everything they need and most everything they want).

Ideally, minimum wage should be for students, I agree. Ideally, every one could receive an education to help them get better jobs but education is ridiculously expensive now days.

Where I live, minimum wage was about $7.25 when I was I was in high school and that was15 years ago. So yes, minimum wage should be increased for cost of living.

We should be looking at other reasons why affordable living is difficult as well.

Inflation has caused a huge problem, education is expensive, FOOD is expensive. We spend nearly as much in food as we do on our house every month. And I menu plan and cook a lot.

There are a lot of problems. Not just one.

Let’s take this one step further. A SINGLE person, working 40hrs/wk (WITH benefits which is extremely hard to find), making $11/hr is the best possible scenario, right? (Best pay in my area is about $9.50 if you are lucky)
So..40x11= 440. Minus 25% in taxes=$330/wk. That’s $1,320/mo.
A STUDIO apartment runs approx 700-800 a month. Let’s say $750. That leaves $570 for everything else! Food, utilities, medicine, co-pays, clothing, transportation. $50/wk for groceries leaves $370. A monthly bus pass here is $30. Water and sewer should be included in the rent, leaving about $40-$50/ month for electric. We’re down to $275. Now, do you need a basic phone? $35 is now $240.
That $240 is medicine, clothing, co-pays/deductibles, haircuts, and emergencies. This includes no car, and no internet at home.
Yes, you could “make it”. MANY people are “making it”. Barely. But they cannot reach for the American Dream—save for a home —and worry about an injury or illness that can shut the whole thing down.

By Unbiased America

A study is out that, if taken at face value, would imply that many of those reading this should be homeless.

It’s the National Low Income Housing Coalition’s (NLIHC) annual “Out of Reach” report on the affordability of housing in America. And every year when the study is updated and released, the media eats it up, usually running a story with some variant of the headline “Study Finds That In No State Can a Minimum Wage Worker Afford a Two-Bedroom Apartment.”

Oh, where to begin?

• The study has a single minimum wage worker purchasing a TWO-bedroom apartment. Every single estimate in it could be cut in half with the addition of something known as a “room mate.”

• The study itself is not measuring rent, it’s measuring “fair market rent”. “Fair market rent” is rent that consumes less than 30% of a renters income. In other words, what the study is saying that in no state can you afford a two-bedroom apartment as a single individual, and still have 70% of your income left over afterwards.

• The wages that the NLIHC claims a worker would need to afford a two bedroom apartment in many states exceeds the median wage in those states, and it goes without saying that half of the population is not homeless in those states.

• The study doesn’t acknowledge that someone who’s earning minimum wage and fits the “working poor” description would be receiving the majority of their income as non-cash income in the form of various government benefits. Indeed the average person in poverty spends $2.30 for every dollar of earned income they have, according to the Heritage Foundation.

And yet, despite all these obvious issues with the report, every year when this bogus study is updated, it makes its way unquestioned throughout every major media outlet, including The Washington Post, CNN, Huffington Post, NPR, CNBC, The Hill, and many others.

Read my full takedown of this study here: https://www.bongino.com/a...e-in-any-state/

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I love how a lot of the older generation on here is claiming it’s so easy- most places pay “above minimum wage”

Please enlighten me- much were homes for you back then?
Your current “paid for” home, what did that actually cost you?

What about the education you keep pushing us all to have?
What did a college degree cost you? How much and for how long did you have to repay for your education?

Health insurance- how much did it cost you to go for a simple doctor appointment? Have a procedure, pick up a needed prescription?

Children- how much were you paying a week for daycare? Or were you able as a family to live off of one income?

Apartments start where I live around $1100 for a one bedroom.

Student loans- I’m in my 30s and a lot people my age still have almost $1000 a month in student loan payments -

What about health insurance? I know I have a $7000 deductible on top of my monthly premium.

Childcare- what is that now, almost $200 a week at the low end facilities....

But what do we know, we can just go get a job for $15 an hour because that’s sustainable ‍♀️