Climate activist Greta Thunberg released after being detained by German police at coal mine protest | CNN

Thunberg swiftly resumed campaigning on Wednesday, tweeting: “Climate protection is not a crime.”

           

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Johnny Pockets no, you're not. Those are two different things. You can absolutely be for EV and not be ok with how batteries are currently made. Humans are allowed to be more complex than how you describe your views.

Do you also really not know how tech changes? Cobalt today and something cleaner and better next.

If everyone had your view, we'd all still be riding a horse. Not even a carriage in case the wheel is too scary of an improvement.

And I still don't care if you think the OP is a hypocrite in your eyes. That has nothing to do with this story. That's just on him.

Again, do you have a point? Or are you going to make up straw men to attack the OP with? Because there's no point in that. I still don't care. I don't know him. You're not impressing me.


Brian Hanes it's called reality. No one said don't come to America but if you ever read what it takes to become an actual citizen you too would be questioning our Government. Tax paying citizens have rights and taxation without representation is against the law. The laws on the books that Congress writes clearly states you have to come into a check point so we know who you are not cross a raging river where Border Patrol may have to fish out another drowned migrant. BP has already picked up over 800 dead migrants but ya won't see that on CNN. And as for you calling me a racist you are uneducated in the term so please save everyone your fake outrage that the bleeding heart liberals have and prove to everyone that you are helping in this situation. How many migrants do you sponsor, do you have a family living with you and are you paying for them and teaching them English so they can get good paying jobs. What exactly are you doing to help? I'll wait for your answer


She is a spoiled rich brat with no clue what life is about. She is also a hypocrite. She also has no clue what the science, data actually shows about the subject she claims to represent. We are now into the 8th year of a cooling trend with atmospheric and oceanic temps declining, that is, if you believe NASA's data. In fact, since 2015, NASA's yearly temp anomalies shows a -0.11 decline per decade. That data runs thru the end of 2022.

Greta cannot speak without reading off cue cards. Doubt she even knows what the laws of thermodynamics are let alone how they apply to climate.


Adam, you raised some very good points. The fact is that to secure energy independence from the rest of the world as rapidly as possible the USA MUST create a temporary, national, federally funded program of the type that mobilized the USA for World War Two production, and of the type that sent us to the moon.
The following system, once constructed, will NOT require the continuous, annual, decades-long subsidization that will always be required if we use fossil fuels and nuclear fission to generate electricity. However, it WILL provide PLENTIFUL green and renewable, lower cost, lower carbon energy for ALL sectors of American life, 24/7/365.
"US rooftops could host enough capacity to produce an annual 4.2 petawatt-hours (PWh) per year, which slightly surpasses the country's current total energy output of around 4 PWh per year." https://electrek.co/2021/...15%5D%20watts.) https://www.freeingenergy...-power-the-u-s/
"Analysis indicates that a network of land-based 2.5-megawatt (MW) turbines restricted to non-forested, ice-free, nonurban areas operating at as little as 20% of their rated capacity...in the contiguous United States, specifically in the central plain states, could accommodate as much as 16 times total current demand for electricity in the United States."
https://www.pnas.org/content/106/27/10933 https://www.energy.gov/ee...nergy-potential
According to the US Department of Energy, the USA also has a recoverable offshore technical wind resource potential of more than 2,000 GW of capacity, or 7,200 TWh of generation per year. For context, this is nearly double the nation’s current electricity use.
That means that by developing those wind resources and by installing solar panels on every home, small business, and factory that is practical, along with strategically located PVC-solar and solar molten salt steam-generating industrial-scale electric plants (and backup battery banks with their own backup diesel generators fueled by vegetable and seed oils produced by American farmers) linked to further back-ups consisting of geothermal, wave, and tidal sources to help cover base load and peak demand, all controlled by a new nationwide Smart Grid to send power where it is needed most, quickly and efficiently, we have the potential to generate UP TO TWENTY TIMES our nation's current electrical consumption, without intermittency. https://www.nrel.gov/news...t-the-spin.html
The materials and labor for this massive undertaking should absolutely be sourced from the USA. The new grid should also be broken up into nationwide customer-owned Co-ops for each county/parish, with the operations costs being paid by the customers that use the utilities. This publicly financed system should NEVER be owned by energy oligarchs that currently control much of the energy system for their own personal profit. This will help to keep costs as low as possible.
Molten salt storage 33 times cheaper than lithium-ion batteries
https://solarthermalworld...pS0MUG4EGQxu2lQ
Industrial scale battery storage is now 30% cheaper than building new natural gas peaker-plants. https://www.energy-storag...an-study-finds/
Yes, the USA has its own lithium.
https://www.bbc.com/futur...se-green-energy
https://www.usgs.gov/data/lithium-deposits-united-states
https://interestingengine...8Hymb2bgDECbmcA
"Solar PV and onshore wind are now the cheapest sources of new-build generation for at least two-thirds of the global population. Those two-thirds live in locations that comprise 71% of gross domestic product and 85% of energy generation."
https://www.smart-energy....ergy-says-bnef/


Adam Craig carbon emissions from mineral extraction for batteries and power generation are more easily controlled because they're centralized (mines, power plants) earlier in the process. Emissions from ICE vehicles are more difficult to control because the polluting source are hundreds of thousands of cars being driven around, which is dispersed. Moreover, ICE vehicles are less efficient than EVs. Finally, while electricity is often generated by burning fossil fuel, that's not necessarily always the case as it can come from and be changed to hydro, solar, wind, etc. Existing EVs, therefore, have the potential to further reduce carbon emissions in the future if charged by renewable energy sources, which climate activists also support. Nascent steps are also being taken in researching processes for recycling and reusing EV batteries. Making perfect the enemy of progress is a fallacy, especially when changing energy infrastructure requires a great deal of time, effort, money, and political support. In the long run, assuming technology continues to advance from interest and support from consumers and governments, adoption of EVs have the potential to be better for the environment than staying the course with gas-burning cars. But like any new product, it needs to get there. Perhaps hydrogen powered cars would be the greener option, but unfortunately that ship has sailed or the infrastructure required isn't as feasible.




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