1ºWhy So many negative comments? . I own a gas engine car that is pretty good on gas, a Toyota carolla. I have friends who have a Tesla and also have solar panels in their house. They had to put money up front, but the cost of running the car in sunny Las Vegas is a lot less expensive than my gas car. As far as reliability and maintenance, my brother has a Tesla. The tires need to be changed more often, but he has zero maintenance issues. Basically he was told to bring it in every 100,000 miles. I don’t see this as an either or. If I had more money I’d put solar panels on my roof and get an electric car because I like the idea of self sufficiency and not have to rely on a fuel source that fluctuates with the economy, wars, or what Saudi Arabia wants to charge. This is only the beginning of alternative vehicles. I expect EVs to come down in price like computers did. I expect hydrogen cars will also be part of the mix, and like the internet that was unimaginable when I was a kid, new technologies will surprise us. For those of us who drive gas engine cars, every alternative fueled car puts downward pressure on gasoline prices. It’s a win win as far as I see it.
2ºIt was not long ago that we were asked to reduce the use of electricity. They said to buy special light bulbs and unplug electric appliances when not in use. To turn off light in unused rooms and turn air conditioner temperature up to reduce use of electricity. Then all of a sudden things that once didn't require electricity, became electrical. TV antennas, room air fresheners, and now cars.
What's going to happen if we go through another "save electricity" cycle again? Will people and companies be able charge their vehicles? I remember when there was a gas shortage and people could only get gas on appointed days. Could they put a limit on your use of electricity?
3ºCraig Leighton that's funny. Nobody told me what to buy either.
I bought a Tacoma in Maryland. I drove right past the White House on the way home. Nobody ran out and tried to take away my keys. Nobody showed up at the dealership to try to get me to buy an EV. But those who cling to gasoline and have an anti government mindset love to quote government control. It's just a lie. Buy what you want. Nobody cares. It's really not necessary to announce your decision not to buy an EV on EV pages.
I didn't go to the Nissan page and dog Nissan just because I bought a Toyota. Who does juvenile things like that.
4ºBrent Ashley you run your a/c at night. That's funny. If you believe that uses the same amount of electricity as it does when it's 100F then you don't have the skills to understand the subject.
I am out of here. You are spinning. You are finding confirmation biased opinions and pulling selected data from them. You aren't interested in the truth. You don't possess logical thinking skills.
If we can run office buildings.
If we can run retail.
If we can run restaurants.
If we can cook dinner.
If we can run automotive repair shops.
If we can run schools.
Where does that capacity go at night?
Logical thinking.
Electricity cost 20% to make and 80% to distribute. We don't need new lines down the streets. We don't need more money for storm damage.
Wouldn't you like to be in a business with a retail price of 20¢ and a product cost of 4¢. How much could you grow in 20 years with that spread.
Nope. I am not interested in your cherry picked numbers.
If you don't like EVs don't buy one. We really don't care.
5ºCraig Leighton "they". A few states. The president won't be around in 2035 regardless of the next election. It's hard to believe that the average family living paycheck to paycheck will choose to spend $300 a month to stick it to "they" (the government) and protest the transition.
We have one side that enjoys saving money and the other side that is fighting tooth and nail using made up excuses and myths that have very little logic or data behind them.
You have 12 years to sit on the sideline and drive gasoline cars before a FEW states ban the sale of NEW gasoline cars. No state has announced any plans to ban the purchase of new gasoline cars out of state. No state has announced plans to outlaw the sale of 2-3 year old, under warranty used gasoline cars. We have three elections before 2035. The people need to make choices at the polls.
6ºPaul Robinson you might be the one who wants to work on your reading comprehension. Only in backwards-land (of those who endlessly argue with random strangers online) would you try to argue that anyone else thinks a credible link, in which the text details what the headline states, says “the opposite and was a counter argument.” The Reuters link states what the axios link states, i.e., even with the growth of EV sales, they have been overproduced and demand is not strong enough in the US to prevent EV inventories from piling up at dealers. For some reason those facts seem to ruffle you a bit. Thus, you told Bob Campbell his link was invalid/not credible. I provided a link to you from another source, and you still want to argue. And, I don’t know Anika that you name, but whoever that is, I could not possibly care less about his or her credibility. Stay ruffled.
7ºCarmen Weeks So, after living through the snowpacalypse in Texas where we had no power for most of a week, I can tell you this.
No power means no pumps are running and no stations are open.
When the power went out, I would have had a full charge. My wife's ICE car had less than 1/4 tank and my ICE car had 1/8th.
Had I had my Tesla then, I could have been sitting at a comfortable 60+ degrees watching Netflix in my car for the coldest 2-3 days instead of sitting in a freezing house in a parka waiting for the pipes to burst.
8ºCyndi Bricker how can't you? There is literally only sources showing we do not have the technology to do it. There's not one source that says we do. Flip the switch. Give everyone an EV. No more gas vehicles. Shut down all coal power plants. Support the grid with only no emission renewable sources. And see if the grid sustains. Even without EVs on the grid we'd already be dealing with daily nationwide brown outs since the most reliable source is a dam. And those don't generate even remotely enough. Next most reliable is wind. Which has an average power output uptime of about 40% (60% of the time they're consuming more than they generate or are shut down to stimmy that). Next is solar with an avg uptime of about 50%, though far less output. There's not one single educated person that would say "if we shut down all natural resources plants we could support full EV migration". 10 EVs consume more power than the entire plant that built then. 30 EVs consume more power than any one of nearly any city in the country.
9ºCheryl Terwilliger Hall those generators make electricity. Can electricity only be used to pump gas??? No.
The NY law does NOT require any service to have a generator. It does require stations within 0.5 miles of an evacuation route have a transfer switch installed and be able to get a generator within 24hrs AFTER losing power. That generator has to be capable of running all of the facilities at the station, i.e. not just the gas pumps.
So even with that law, at the locations, there would be up to 24 hours with no gas, and when they do get gas pumping, any charging stations would also be operational.
10ºBrent Ashley all of that's made up. Not a shred of truth. You start with a myth then pontificate from there.
Do you really think that charging a car while you sleep will cause capacity problems the following evening between 4pm and 9pm the following day? That makes no sense.
No we don't need to replace gas stations with chargers one for one. Most people can charge at home. Going out of town isn't the arduous task that you spin. You have to stop every 250 miles for 20 minutes. That's 3 stops for a 1,000 mile trip with a total of an hour. That's the truth. You can spin your anti EV agenda any way you want, but who drives a 1,000 mile gasoline trip without an hour of down time for meals and restrooms.
"before EVs are going to assume the same mantle as ICE's [sic]" is 20 years from now. That's longer than it took so build a reliable cell network. That's longer than it took to build most of the original interstate highway infrastructure (the #0 and #5 numbers).
So stop and think. If you don't like EVs don't buy one.