1ºKristy Saranpa Scott Sit back and think on how that comment has anything to do with what the fuck we are talking about. Ivy and I were discussing the frequency in which political violence is doled out by both parties in contrast to one another. Your question on how your community should be reacting has nothing to do with it. That’s a textbook red herring. Instead of providing evidence for their claim, you made up a scenario about your communities response over the assassination of Charlie Kirk to distract. The fact you need to do that shows you don’t have proof that the left commits more political violence than the right. Either back up their original statement with data or admit it was baseless.
2º“The gun may have been pointed at Charlie but the bullet was meant for all of us”….
President Trump
Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D) on the day of Charlie Kirks memorial services:
“What I find amazing is it was almost all blacks that voted against honoring Charlie Kirk. Only 2 whites. That shows how his rhetoric was mostly racist, it produced hate”. ()
Illhan Omar (D) House on the day of Charlie Kirks memorial:
We didn’t want to litigate his life until House Republicans said Kirk was akin to MLK who Charlie Kirk loathed. You can not now look in the mirror and not say this man wasn’t a racist “.
The time for “unity” is over. The disgusting comments coming from these liberal mutts (especially on Facebook) proves it!! If people can’t unite or change (FOR 1 FUCKING DAY) and for a young family where their father was just gunned down, then things are only going to get worst!!
3ºMarcus Kuhnert we aren't the ones who held up a beheaded president's head for all the nation to see, we aren't the ones who have called for the burning/destroying of cities, vehicles, and looting businesses, we aren't the ones on TV saying this person should be dead, and that that person should be dead, and then pretending to be so surprised when assassinations happen. We aren't the ones making excuses for criminals saying "committing a crime doesn't make you a criminal, being a criminal is a mindset" that was said Representative Jasmine Crockett. And you want to say the right is the problem? We aren't the ones who cried when we didn't get our way when Biden was elected, we didn't go burn down cities and wreak havoc all over, we aren't the ones saying "if so and so gets elected im leaving the US." So please continue as to how the right is the problem!
4ºTami Williams oh you know, the party that doesn't know what illegal is, the same one who let in millions of unvaccinated illegals while trying to keep us locked up in our homes during the plandemic. Aren't they the same ones that think men who wear dresses are real women and entitled to our spaces. The same ones who keep shooting Christians at schools and in a public setting. You know the ones who burn down their shithole cities while spitting on Law Enpandemic. You know the same ones who tried to sell to the world that Biden was sharp as a tack. You know the ones who blamed Bidens 9% inflation on corporate greed. But as soon as trump took office it was the tariffs fault. Not corporate greed anymore. I could go on but its time to watch the voice.
5ºIvy Bastardia there's too many to cite. YOU made the assertion that "this along with MOST political violence is committed by the Left" with NO PROOF. THE BURDEN OF PROOF STILL RELIES ON YOU, AS DOES THE BURDEN OF UNBIASED SELF-EDUCATION. You don't even know how to think properly and you want me to waste time giving you a breakdown of a topic you don't even understand. I have given you the raw sources and data and left it up to you because I won't spend my time teaching the village idiot something basic. Like "how to come to an intellectual conclusion while looking at the sources of raw, unbiased data."or "how to research a topic." You should see the validity in it as it disallows me from "cherry-picking" in favor of either side
6ºJordan Murray Hard to forget all this!
“You go out there and you push against those people wherever they are in restaurants on the streets “ Maxine Waters
Chicago's radical Democrat Mayor Brandon Johnson is urging his residents to "rise up" and take to the streets to oppose ICE.
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz urges fellow Democrats to get "meaner”
April 28, 2025 JB Pritzker said:
"Never before in my life have I called for mass protests, for mobilization, for disruption, but I am now.” “The GOP can’t know a moments peace.”
And Chuck himself-
“I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price!” Schumer shouted. “You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions!”
Or—, “This is what he said on that particular program: ‘We are mobilizing in New York. We have people going to the Republican districts and going after these Republicans who are voting for this and forcing them to either change their vote or face the consequences.’
Robert Reich, tweeted, “Just wondering if ‘DeSantis’ is now officially a synonym for ‘fascist.' A word also used by Kamala Harris.
When you incessantly call your political opponents Nazis, you may already be inciting someone to remove Trump from the field of politics in a non-electoral fashion.
We have sitting members of Congress calling for “war” and declaring the end of democracy. So what other conclusion would they have us draw?
Or Joe Biden’s remark—
'It's Time to Put Trump in a Bull's-Eye.' This was several days before Trump’s assassination attempt.
7ºIvy Bastardia Trump was calling for political violence against his opponents his entire political career. He still is. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, Snowflake. This is still irrelevant to the statement you made and my statement refuting it. As I pointed out, you're one giant Red Herring, stuffed to the gills with whatabouism. I didn't "go back 35 years" I gave you my earliest example being 2018. (7years ago) the others were from 2019 and 2022. what bullshit are you trying to peddle?
I think my comment got flagged because I said the "A" word. You asked for 3 examples: Tree of Life Synagogue shooting(2018), El Paso Walmart shooting(2019), Buffalo supermarket shooting (2022), as well as Both Hortman's and Hoffman's in june this year.
All of the instances you said are in the data as well, It still doesn't change the fact that the right perpetrates more against the left in PV. A good example is that of those 19 deaths 14 of them were people who were participating in the riots themselves. meaning they were left. only 2 conservatives in connection with the GF riots were killed. 2 of those remaining 3 were killed in accidents linke to the GF protests. See what I'm getting at here? they already factor all of that into the data.
This is why i didn't want to cite any of the sources is because your dumbass is still commenting instead of reading the data sets and trying to support your own original point. This is why I previously pointed out that you need to look into it yourself. It's a fact accepted even by our own Federal gov't which is what this whole gd topic is about. Ivy, I say this to you: You will never be intelligent while trying to argue the conclusion of raw data with figures already represented in the dataset, you fucking idiot. Now go to bed because you've wasted my time and I'm sure Char is waiting for you to call her back and listen to you lie about the outcome of this conversation.
8ºHoward Miller You are a low educated, political posturing moron. Did you see the comments from Fox and Nancy Mace before we even knew what the shooter's hair color was at the time? You must be out of your freaking mind. They did absolutely nothing but weaponize that man's death and now trying to punish military personnel for making a comment about an effing civilian. Don't bring that shut to me about Trump's one statement as if that's all he said. You are so FOS that I am amazed that you have the ability to walk. The bike stuff said from the right the day it happened showed that they aren't leadership material and never have been.
Nancy Mace " Democrats own what happened TODAY" "I am devastated. My kids have called, panicking. All kids of conservatives are panicking." Did you read that part "TODAY".? No idea regarding anything related to the person, but there she was causing division.
Trump said years of attacks, from the left comparing figures like Kirk to Nazis was "directly responsible for the terrorism that we are seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now."
When co-host Ainsley Earnhardt asked Trump how the country can come together, noting there are "radicals" on both the right and the left, Trump defended those on the right are concerned about crime, while condemning those on the left as "vicious" and "horrible" This man had his life taken only to be weaponized by the right.
9ºJordan Murray While you're going back 35 years, I'll only go back 5. And these numbers are limited only to the deaths in the summer of 2020 and do not encompass other immeasurable violence committed by the left since. Early reports: As of June 8, 2020, just two weeks after George Floyd's death, an informal tally by Forbes identified at least 19 deaths.
Later reports: An October 2020 investigation by the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) reported at least 25 people were killed in incidents linked to political unrest throughout 2020. This included 11 people killed while participating in demonstrations and 14 others who died in related incidents.
Extended period: A Wikipedia entry that tracks deaths related to the 2020–2023 U.S. racial unrest lists at least 36 people killed.
Notable deaths linked to the unrest included protesters, bystanders, and others who died during looting or amid violent clashes. An example includes:
David Dorn: A 77-year-old retired St. Louis police captain, Dorn was shot and killed by a looter at a pawn shop. Since, leftist political violence has been attributed to ICE operations and law enforcement operations. The violence includes everything from simple assault to dropping cinder blocks onto cars from overpasses. We've already mentioned the attacks on tesla's and tesla dealerships. No rational person believes that the singular incidents you listed outweigh the constant violence perpetrated by the left over the past decade. And not all of the violence you listed can be undoubtedly attributed to right wing politics. Their causes for the most part, are theoretical, not unlike the causes of transgender school shootings, which aren't listed among your statistics.